Just a bit more. The story of my wife's large JW family is not unique. It's pretty much the rule. There's very few JW families where the children become exemplary JW's and stay happily married. The success rate must be lower than for non-JW's. This type of situation seems to be aggravated when the father is an elder. Seriously.
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Marrying out of the truth poem!
by DagothUr inmarrying out of the truth !!.
(author's name removed to protect privacy).
he or she-- doesn't love jehovah .
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Marrying out of the truth poem!
by DagothUr inmarrying out of the truth !!.
(author's name removed to protect privacy).
he or she-- doesn't love jehovah .
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never a jw
Well, my wife married a non-believer, ME. As expected, all of her JW family refused to attend our wedding.
What's happened since then, you may ask?
Since someone in this site may know me I will proceed with caution and spare the details. Suffice to say there's plenty of cheating, divorce, no university studies, low paying jobs among my wife's JW's nephews and nieces. I can only think of two success stories: in the first story both husband and wife are nominal JW's; and in the second story the husband is an elder and a total asshole, but no cheating and no divorce there. She looks miserable though
Meanwhile me and my wife live happy lives, have zero debt, two houses, a fat retirement, have done a good share of traveling and plan to do plenty more until death. Also, both my children are on their way to graduating from a four year university. Funny, but pretty much everyone in my wife's large family praises my children for their exemplary conduct and achievements and I know deep inside they wish their kids were just like ours.
Some religion!
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Thought Bubbles Then & Now
by steve2 inmy thought bubble in the 1980s:.
"how can i engage with worldly people when they are just not interested in discussing these important topics as featured in the watchtower and awake?.
my thought bubble in the 2010s:.
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My thought bubble in the 1980s:
"How can I pull this off? I have two tough tests coming, Thermodynamics and Mechanics of Fluids?
My thought bubble in the 2010s:
“I am so glad my parents were not JW's"
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NWT - revised 1984 vs revised 2013 versions
by Tallon inin the latest 2013 revision the footnote of john chapter 8 states; a number of ancient and authoritative manuscripts omit vs 53 (of chapter 7) to chapter 8, vs. 11.. yet the 1984 revision quotes a similar footnote, however the passage of scripture is included in the text, albeit separately at the bottom.
this passage of scripture is about the scribes and the pharisees who brought a woman that was accused of adultery before jesus to test him on the punishment to be meted out.
then came his famous reply; let the one of you that is sinless be the first to throw a stone at her.. i just found it interesting that the wtbts would leave this out in the latest revision.
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The WT got it right.
Besides, it is one of the nicest sounding parts of the bible, but it's only make-you-feel-good-BS. If we were to use Jesus' standard for prosecuting someone, it would be impossible to prosecute the worst criminals, let alone an adulterous woman. Also, it is quite inconsistent for Jesus to claim to uphold the law in some parts of the New Testament, but break it so he can be praised for his ridiculous solutions to conflict, such as "turn the other cheek". Pleeeeeeease!
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Comparing Total Numbers Baptized During the 1990s and the Last Ten Years:
by steve2 insometimes, comparing raw numbers provides a more clear-cut numerical picture of growth or otherwise than percentages.
below are the numbers for peak publishers (rounded off so that 4,1 represents more than 4,100,000) for each year throughout the 1990s and those for the last ten years.. year: peak* baptisms.
* peak publishers abbreviated - simply to show annual baptisms in relation to peak publishers.. the main point: .
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2000-2005 missing. can you add them? I am trying to see a continuous trend.
Comparing the two blocks of data (nineties and the last 10 years) we get an average decline of 7.6 percent. (from an average of 323,481 to 298,856)
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Study with an Elder - propose a question.
by CitizenofEarth inhello there.. as some of you might remember i am keeping my facade up by "studying" with an elder.
this study however is more of a session where i put hard questions about the org, doctrine and so on, on the table.
the time has come for the next session in a couple of days, and i have quite frankly lost the will to keep digging up things that just shouldn't be happening.
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Question: Why are you guys so full of yourselves, especially as you climb in the hierarchy?
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Watchtower study today - best practice in word
by Gorbatchov indue to family reasons gorby was present today.. the watchtower study was about refugee's.. how to treat refugee's, jw and non believers, and help them spiritual, not financial.
nothing new.. what i mentioned is the juridical message underneath the whole story.
don't talk politics, listen to government regulations etc.. most bizar is that a whole congregation that normaly avoid giving any aid to people in need, this morning gave the best practice in word about what to do with refugee's.. if the subject was not that serious, this hypocracy could be funny.
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Gorby...where are the quotes and the context. Has anyone who has made a comment even read the article, the full article.
I am not defending the despicable cult that has brainwashed my daughter, I just need support for the claims of those attacking it so the attacks can have credibility.
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Anointed Ratios
by Labate inanother recent topic got me thinking.
has there ever been any kind of study of the ratio of male to female anointed?
if the female anointed will be co-rulers in heaven with morris and company, why are they not represented as gb members and helpers before armageddon arrives?.
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Didn't you hear brother Herd? Women have smaller brain, therefore not equipped for leadership and should be in subjection to men. And even if smarter than men, they should play dumb
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we have a laid off bethelite with an engineering degree!
by nowwhat? inthis guy have been at bethel for 25 years when he could have been making 75-100 thousand a year as an engineer.
so they kick him to the curb so they don't have to house him and his wife anymore.
they run into a problem at warwick and they ask him to come back for 3 weeks.
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"I know seven JWs with engineering degrees"
Where do you live?... I have yet to encounter a JW who is an engineer. Accountants only...now these are definitely professionals who overall can't function without rules and procedures. No course that develop critical thinking skills is included in their curriculum.
Aren't you a bit supercilious when speaking of your peers and teachers?
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Just heard that the WT sent money to help brothers in Russia
by Bonnie_Clyde inclyde and i had lunch with a friend who attended the assembly with his wife.
he told us that he was sure he heard that the wt had sent money to russia to help the brothers financially.
i told him that i heard the opposite....that they are directing witnesses to meet in private homes and set up a donation jar for the sole purpose of sending money to the wt, giving explicit instructions on how to transmit the funds.
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rank and file can swallow any lie, especially those that make WT look the opposite of what they really are, scumbags.